tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post6383665683300406499..comments2024-03-07T05:08:23.926+00:00Comments on Wrighty7: Are Gooners Hypocrites Or Just Desperate?Wrighty7http://www.blogger.com/profile/11066942899830871365noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-60886283936582263492010-12-05T05:37:32.509+00:002010-12-05T05:37:32.509+00:00Well right now it's a very winnable competitio...Well right now it's a very winnable competition so just go for it. Play a reserve side in the semis both legs and put on the players that deserve it the most in the final. We should relly win this one easily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-65442179309502631472010-12-02T10:20:37.846+00:002010-12-02T10:20:37.846+00:00The CC cup was used by Wenger as competitive pract...The CC cup was used by Wenger as competitive practice for the youngsters, and we have always done well in it, reaching the latter stages, even the final, almost every time. Also, the youngsters Wenger has "developed" through this cup proves that without winning it, we've actually gained more from our policy towards the cup. Over the years, Fabregas, Denilson, Song, Wilshere, Eastmond, Clichy, Fabianski, Sczezny, Bendnter, Vela and Walcott are just some of the players that started their careers in the CC Cup, and those players are playing in the CC Cup again this year, only they are better and more experienced, hence the "perception" we are playing our first team. But in every round this year, we have made wholsale changes to the CC team, against Wigan NINE changes from the league game, that tells you something.<br /><br />Also, whilst it is still the Micky Mouse cup capared to the PL and CL, it is a bona-fide cup compared to the "Emirates Cup", and it will still still be a pleasure to win it, but looking at the teams we have had to beat this year, Spurs, Newcastle and Wigan - all PL teams, it's hardly micky mouse competition, so we should actually feel good about it. If we win it, i'll be chuffed to bits and proud of it, but it won't make up for now winning the PL or CL, any Gooner will tell you that - that's not being hypocritical. As for mocking Spurs when they won, for them it was a BIG Trophy, a "we've actually won something in our lives" moment - that's what's funny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-83382971028462918852010-12-02T03:30:06.487+00:002010-12-02T03:30:06.487+00:00well, the real worry we should all have, is how ev...well, the real worry we should all have, is how everyone is assuming we are going to win the bloody thing! I sure as hell hope we do but there are three games to go before the trophy is ours regardless of its worth.<br /><br />Whilst we may be favourites, all this talk assumes that we've won teh furking thing - too much complacency and the press will be saying 6 years without a trophy. Lets win it first huh - three games to go and we all know in football anything can happen on the day!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-46980680266391858442010-12-02T02:56:43.512+00:002010-12-02T02:56:43.512+00:00Well said Wrighty you are a rare gem ")Well said Wrighty you are a rare gem ")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-63776306580074064612010-12-02T02:48:49.908+00:002010-12-02T02:48:49.908+00:00disagree..
we need this cup..we have the stronges...disagree..<br /><br />we need this cup..we have the strongest pl squad but they havent won anything so the mental issues are still there..<br /><br />this team needs a trophy..any trophy, we need a launchpad to get this team focused and the CC is perfect..<br /><br />now we are in the semis and we are the strongest team we should go all out to get it..<br /><br />u dont breed winners by not giving a shit about silverware..<br /><br />so what if its the CC cup..<br /><br />to be honest id be happy with our customery 4th spot and the CC cup. and u never know with the CC final in feb/march it might just give us the impetous we need to put a little run together at the business end of the season..<br /><br />dont knock it mate..i think winning this trophy is the key to winning the PL and CL..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-61024860649870306522010-12-01T22:59:09.056+00:002010-12-01T22:59:09.056+00:00A trophy, any trophy would give a tremendous boost...A trophy, any trophy would give a tremendous boost to all the players.. Everyone is living under Fabregas's shadow and in a way, psychologically speaking, this will even out the team. Maybe its more of a mental exercise to make them stronger in their heads and help push them past their late puberty or adolescent stage into a more of a manly approach.. I have been lucky to have been born to witness the invincible era.. Nothing I see from Arsenal will come close to match up to it.. atleast I don't see anything happening like that in the near future.. But I would love it if i were made to eat my own words here.. But I'll take the Carling cup now and come May, the Champions league, the Premier league and the FA cup.. and if possible, soundly thrash Barcelona like they dished it out to Madrid the other day..Barneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-2268544922926737642010-12-01T22:27:28.993+00:002010-12-01T22:27:28.993+00:00Got to disagree with you Wrighty!
I previously po...Got to disagree with you Wrighty!<br /><br />I previously posted the following response to an article on Untold Arsenal:<br /><br />It really is insulting hearing the moronic media and the retarded AAA talking about AW taking the CC serious because of desperation to win trophies. Can any sane fan believe these idiots? Arsene’s approach has not changed – not one bit! He has always used a careful mix of (1) youth players, (1) squad players and (3) 1st teamers in need of games. The proportion of the mix is determined by the quality of the opposition e.g. compare the team that thrashed Sheffield United 6-0 with the one that lost 3-0 to Shitty. <br /><br />What has been changing is the players maturity as AW keeps giving them chances to play. While it is always painful for us fans when they falter, one can only imagine how bad Arsene must feel with the pain of the loss and the bile from the know-it-all brigade. Now that the project is bearing fruit resulting in the best squad in the country, rather than raise their hands, admit they were wrong and give credit where it is due, they changed the tune to “he is now taking the CC serious”. Bunch of jokers!Bootoomeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-69106996483365608112010-12-01T21:30:51.572+00:002010-12-01T21:30:51.572+00:00Wrighty, I read you from time to time and have pro...Wrighty, I read you from time to time and have probably agreed with you once. Well twice now. <br /><br />The Carling Cup is a mickey mouse cup, always has been all ways will be. Believing the cup to be any differerent is just a sign of how far we have fallen.<br /><br />That said, its our best chance of trophy for the next 5 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-89645720128206132302010-12-01T21:10:31.960+00:002010-12-01T21:10:31.960+00:00come on lad, im sure ur way more intelligent than ...come on lad, im sure ur way more intelligent than that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-69081400114711519672010-12-01T21:08:02.376+00:002010-12-01T21:08:02.376+00:00ahh i see mate, all graft and no blogging makes wr...ahh i see mate, all graft and no blogging makes wrighty a rare blogger... getting called stuff probably comes with the territory though i suppose mate, not everyone can see stuff the right way can they pal? ha ;)Dannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-65815846102108940462010-12-01T20:41:25.700+00:002010-12-01T20:41:25.700+00:00I understand your point completely but there's...I understand your point completely but there's a difference between us winning it and the spuds doing it. If we were to win this year of course we would celebrate but if that was the only thing we won would we consider it a successful season? No. For the spuds the Carling Cup is their pinnacle, for us it is a nice little bonus but by no means season-defining.<br /><br />Also, don't underestimate how massive it would be for the players, not just Wenger, to stop the media continuously whacking them with the '5 years without a trophy' stick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-5324847176100444632010-12-01T20:38:43.467+00:002010-12-01T20:38:43.467+00:00I for one resolutely mocked the Spuds when they wo...I for one resolutely mocked the Spuds when they won the Mickey Mouse Cup.<br /><br />I'll go to the final to be fair...but don't expect me to crow about "silverware" if we win.<br /><br />I think the most I'll talk it up is that it is a "nice" trophy to win, not a great one.<br /><br />That should stop the Yidiots I work with getting on my case...'course, at Wembley (if we get there) I'll be singing, cheering and going as nuts as any other gooners if we win.<br /><br />But no one else needs to know that...Rhylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-50003650107785064552010-12-01T20:36:23.381+00:002010-12-01T20:36:23.381+00:00I want us to win every competition we enter - A ch...I want us to win every competition we enter - A choice between another season with a top 4 finish only or a top 4 finish + a carling cup win, I'd happily celebrate the Carling cup win even if it really doesnt mean as much as the League, CL, FA Cup.<br /><br />One of my fondest memories of supporting Arsenal was watching the Cup winners cup win back in the 90's - I guess today that would be considered a lesser competition but the memories of that day will stick with me forever. <br /><br />I take your point though - My reaction to Tottenham fans winning the league cup was 'tell us when you win a real competition', But that was largely down to the ones I know gloating about it as if they were the biggest club in the world...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-47326272781858599672010-12-01T20:35:57.718+00:002010-12-01T20:35:57.718+00:00personally i think wenger thought we lost the leag...personally i think wenger thought we lost the league in 2005 because of pursuit of the FA cup and has prioritized ever since<br /><br />i'm not too bothered about the carling cup, it's only appeal to me is to make everyone shut the f**k up about the trophy "drought" (50 years) so we can concentrate on playingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-42784069923025107562010-12-01T20:19:29.206+00:002010-12-01T20:19:29.206+00:00Hi Danny,
Nah mate I've just been so busy gra...Hi Danny,<br /><br />Nah mate I've just been so busy grafting. <br /><br />Finding it really hard to blog at the moment. <br /><br />Wanna pick it up again though! <br /><br />I miss getting called a cocksucker!Wrighty7https://www.blogger.com/profile/11066942899830871365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-61864012958552520432010-12-01T20:08:12.022+00:002010-12-01T20:08:12.022+00:00Difference is we are competiting at the top end an...Difference is we are competiting at the top end and going for the carling cup. The spuds won it whilst swimming around in mid table mediocrity and we pointed out 4th was a far better achievement (which it is). If we were 10th and celebrated whilst the unwashed were in the champions league we would be hypocrits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-25939104851915004092010-12-01T19:46:24.730+00:002010-12-01T19:46:24.730+00:00Shouldnt u be happy we have finally got a squad wh...Shouldnt u be happy we have finally got a squad where we can make 10 changes to a team and still have almost zero drop in quality,its not like he is playing his first 11, he is playing reserves and players who are not getting game time in the premier league matches.. I think there is nothing desperate about it. Only Arsenal can stop Arsenal from winning something this timeUtkarshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-12151780851802430832010-12-01T19:37:32.771+00:002010-12-01T19:37:32.771+00:00you are supposed to belittle your rivals (although...you are supposed to belittle your rivals (although spurs aint really that but you get the point :-) ) especially when they havent been close to winning the 'big' prizes for 40 years or so and celebrate the carling cup like a 'big' prize - that said us winning it is like man utd winning it - its a trophy but not really the ones we crave - but a trophy is a trophy - i think the significance would be if it was the FIRST prize this squad won - break the duck / stop the rot...whatever you wanna call it that and no moreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-14037711177118877292010-12-01T19:35:22.552+00:002010-12-01T19:35:22.552+00:00spot on once again wrighty mate! us gooners havent...spot on once again wrighty mate! us gooners havent heard from you in a while, you been hibernating in shame after the spurs fiasco? wouldnt blame you to be honest pal :/Dannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-54500375182494302862010-12-01T19:28:10.251+00:002010-12-01T19:28:10.251+00:00Well said Vangooner!Well said Vangooner!Wrighty7https://www.blogger.com/profile/11066942899830871365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-79278945585304015892010-12-01T19:27:20.218+00:002010-12-01T19:27:20.218+00:00Ahh Greek Gooner, you used to be so kind on here!Ahh Greek Gooner, you used to be so kind on here!Wrighty7https://www.blogger.com/profile/11066942899830871365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-13241728324397823292010-12-01T19:23:20.110+00:002010-12-01T19:23:20.110+00:00Actually, Man Utd won the CC in 2006, that was a f...Actually, Man Utd won the CC in 2006, that was a first for Roon,Ron, and carick. May be we need it for the players to get a taste of winning and to believe?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-18771029239113280402010-12-01T19:22:59.495+00:002010-12-01T19:22:59.495+00:00Not getting too excited about the opportunity to w...Not getting too excited about the opportunity to win the Carling Cup either, but there is one thing you're wrong about I believe. We didn't laugh at Spurs for winning it, we laughed at them for thinking that because they won it they were now a "big" club, and that they are/were more succesful than Arsenal because of it. As others have stated, we are still playing a reserve side and the taste of winning may be just what the team needs. So long as the team and its supporters don't go around bragging about what an accomplishment it is then it can be nothing but a good thing. It alone will not make a succesful season, but it might be what takes us to the next level.Jack Strawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-10507934687213453132010-12-01T19:22:24.039+00:002010-12-01T19:22:24.039+00:00I don't think AW's approach is any differe...I don't think AW's approach is any different this season. We have a much larger squad these days, in part due to blooding youngsters in the Carling Cup in seasons past. Arguably only RVP is first choice out of the eleven that started last night so I don't think you have much of a case this time Wrighty. <br /><br />Just because we didn't play 8 teenagers doesn't mean we played our best eleven.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-731298363130971399.post-40404103016390568192010-12-01T19:21:33.068+00:002010-12-01T19:21:33.068+00:00Mate, nice article and I do understand your point ...Mate, nice article and I do understand your point but... there's another side of that story. Firstly, it's true that Wenger has diminished the importance of the both cups due to the pursuit of major honors such as the Premiership and CL but if you think about it he's the only one that did that! I'm sure you remember Fergie saying that Carling Cup is not a priority but that was the only trophy they won last year. The Spuds are still bragging about the cup even though they won it in 2008. Chelsea also pretended to show that "we don't give a fuck" attitude regarding the cup but that didn't stop them beating us for it in 2007. My point is, the Carling Cup has been named Worthless, Mickey Mouse Cup etc, but fuck me, it seems that everyone wants to win it. Did you see United's side against the Hammers last night...?<br /><br />But let's leave it at that, even though this cup slowly regains it's lustre, I'd still say that we are above it and that we should be winning the cups that matter. Still, there's only one reason for me that I want Arsenal to lift the Carling Cup and it's not to end the trophy drought but to be that finishing stimulus to these lads, the final point of their development, the icing of the cake that's called winning mentality, a real evidence of their progress and hard work. This cup will lit em up man, it will do wonders for their self confidence, it will be a small reward for their growth but a huge boost for their future. That's why we shouldn't underestimate the importance of the Carling Cup but we must grab it as hard as we can and start building from there... Keep up the good work! Cheers!VanGoonernoreply@blogger.com