Wednesday 29 July 2009

So why is Alex Ferguson a genius and Arsene Wenger is a donut then?

Let me get this straight.

So Alex Ferguson sells Cristiano Ronaldo, a player who is about to hit his peak and is recognised as the best player in the world, for a massive profit, right? He is seen as a genius who made a hell of a lot of money on a player.

Arsene Wenger has sold two players to Manchester City for a massive profit too. Adebayor, a player who most Gooners were glad to see the back of, and Kolo Toure, who despite being a favourite at the club, has appeared to be on the wane over the last 12-18 months. He is seen as a donut despite making huge money on the pair.

I can't understand this!

All of the sudden people are getting on Wengers back when surely Ferguson should be a target? I've heard hardly a murmur in the media.

Nobody questions Fergie because Arsenal are the easy target.

All we hear is that Arsenal is a selling club and that Arsene Wenger has to sell because we have no money. Even Fergie himself is an expert now.

Ferguson 'knows that Arsene has no money to spend' but why isn't he bombarded with questions over his club?

It's a well-known fact that Manchester United are in deep-debt and my opinion is that Fergie has no more money to spend despite making such a big profit on the Winker.

I reckon that the Glaziers have taken the money to pay off some debt.

How come it isn't in the papers everyday?

I actually think Wenger isn't getting any credit here. He is selling two players for massive profit. Two players who are more than likely to be unavailable in the new year for a period of time due to the African nations cup. He is selling a player no longer wanted and a player who appears to be on the wane.

Yet all I hear is doom and gloom!

Listen, I get frustrated too but I believe that Arsene will buy this summer. Its just a case of getting the right available players. I'm sure Wenger is working on this.

Mark my words Arsenal will be up there challenging this season. Despite everything you read and hear in the media.

Here we have two men doing the same thing. Making a massive profit for their clubs. Yet why is Fergie, a man who sold the best player in the world, heralded as a genius? And why is Arsene Wenger supposingly damaging his club?

What is the difference?

Keep it Goonerish............

52 comments:

Anonymous said...

How about Champions league finalists and winners on top of winning the premiership two years in a row.

Man U are winning team and we were fighting a crap team like Villa for 4th!

This blog is absurd.

GoonerPassey said...

I 100% agree. Brilliant article.

avenell said...

Oi, oi, Wrighty how you doing mate?..

same old stuff everyone hates us and we don't care.. write us off, it makes winning sweeter..

Anonymous said...

arsene wenger is a dougnut because his man management skills are clearly shit if he could get a quality player like toure playing well again. and dont talk shit about toure being on the wayne when ferdinand and terry are the same age. rather than motivate good players (toure/ade/eboue )to play well again arsehole wenger ships them out. what are we a frigging bank or a football team success is measured by trophies not profit margins

Mike said...

From reading the headline i thought you were another blogger who was slaggin Wenger off, but hats off to you for putting it straight. As a team, we still look in good shape without Ade and Kolo. In my opinion we only need a midfielder, and if Senderos leaves then a another defender. But I still have faith in the team even if we dont sign anyone. Players like Song, Djourou and Ramsey are on the rise

Kris said...

It's a totally fair point but ultimately your missing the blindingly obvious - Ferguson has won something in the last four years. And not just something, champions league and premier league titles. I totally agree the media attack Arsenal far more than is really necessary, yet, Wenger came in for barely any criticism in the two years after we last won the league. Ferguson, as much as I hate him, at least deserves that same respect - meanwhile the media have to write something.

Anonymous said...

This resaon is simple. Becasue Manu replaces the players that leave. Arsenal leaves a gap in the squad. We havnt replaced flamini etc. We need atleast 2 players in the squad. Seasoned players.

Anonymous said...

he sold them both to the same premier league team... i guess that is the resaon. Wengers policy in the past always seemed to be not to ever sell to another prem club, but who else would have paid that kind of money?

Wrighty7 said...

Oy oy!

Hello Ave, I'm good thanks mate.

How you doing?

avenell said...

Not bad mate!

Just watching the footie Wrighty.. were looking good so far. 1-0 to the Arsenal..

Arsene Knew said...

This is a joke. In one year we've lost Flamini, Gilberto, Hleb, Diarra, Adebayor and Toure. That's six experienced and, to varying degrees, quality players. OK, Arshavin is going to be a great buy but what about the rest. Take off your red tinted spectacles. Nasri was no more than decent last year, Sivestre was diabolical, Ramsey, who I like, has a way to go, whilst none of us know how the new centre half is going to work out.

When we're able to go back to Old Trafford and do to United what they did to us last season we can start taking a pop at Ferguson.

Be honest. Who would you rather have in charge of the club for the next 3 years? It kills me to say it but Wenger can no longer be compared to Ferguson.

Wrighty7 said...

Ave,

I cant find it anywhere mate! whats the link?

avenell said...

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch4.html

Don't tell everyone..lol

Evs said...

totally agree with you wrighty
however i have heard one hell of a rumour that has come from a mate who works inside the club, hopefully its true:
basically the guy who told me is never usally wrong and apparently as he said to me "toure (as been confirmed), senderos, and eboue will be sold" and potentially on saturday the club willl make an announcement of the signings of TWO WORLD CLASS signings
I know who they are but im sure you'll want it to be a surprise
Ones a striker the other is a defensive midfielder who we faced last year in the Champions league

yes it sounds like it cant be true however there was an error on the arsenal website (that was quickly corrected) and wikipedia which said the DM played for arsenal, so could it possibly be true?

Cmon you gunners!
keep the faith!

Wrighty7 said...

Cheers Ave!

I'll try and come in for a chat later mate!

Wrighty7 said...

Sounds very interesting Evs!!!!!!!

Unknown said...

Very nice blog .very well said

I don't think we need that mutch 1 or 2 .
No strikers will come in I think we will play 5 across the middle with 1 up front .

Naunidh said...

bcoz fergie has ambition and a backup plan while wenger is just going to put the cash in the bank

Evs said...

I know hopefully its true Wrighty :)

but even if people think its untrue and think it will never happen, wenger has £41 million from the sales of adebayor and toure and may have more in the kitty so these transfers could happen :)
hopefully it does

Marko said...

Spot on Wrighty. It's been very evident in the last 2 years that certain tabloids and sections of the media as well as certain Arsenal blog have it in for Arsenal and Wenger (in terms of blogs) and he can do no right.
40 million for an overrated and ungrateful player and a player who gave his best years for our club is great business, we've also lost 2 players who would be leaving for the ACN in january. I am of the opinion now that while Senderos is gonna leave we really should keep Eboue. As things stand now I think we'll defo stay in the top 4 but in order to win the league we need a couple of players in. I'm still very optimistic and confident for this season. As long as we have players like Arshavin, Fabregas, Van Persie and Gallas we're still strong in the core. It's funny too for ages now we've wanted rid of Ade and were willing to sell Toure from back in january and now that we've done it the amount of fans turning on the club is silly.

Anonymous said...

Lost all faith in wenger, all he wants to do is make money he should try fucking spending some like man u, look at what they have won in last 5 years. And fuck everyone who wants to reply "well go surport city" wake up the club is going backwards. Someone said he never replaced flamini, we never replaced pat viera the last time we won somthing!!!!!!!! To top it off he sells players to a team that will probally pip us to 4 place whould man u do that?

Marko said...

Oh and the guy that said who come Ferdinand and Terry are still good at the same age as Kolo. Thats bollox. Fedinand and Terry are also on the wane, you just don't notice it as much because Rio has Vidic beside him and Terry had Alex who was very good last season and also a midfield of defensive midfielders. Fuck Chelsea.

Anonymous said...

Evs at 18.40. You are probably not still online but the DM you are hinting at, if true, could be the player that will push us to the title. He is regarded by many as th best DM around at the mo. I was aware of him being loaded onto the Arsenal site and quickly removed. If it happens could be too good to be true. I have mentioned on a couple of blogs all day that this is the guy to spend the money on before even considering a striker. He would also give us the option of Song at centre back at times as well as being his understudy in DM. For all who were worried about Cana, Melo, Inler e.t.c this aquisition would put that all in the shade. I don't want to curse this rumour but we did play him in the champions league, and there was a small matter of penalties, and he is not the one we were previously linked with who is now being linked with Liverpool. Can you guess who it is yet? Not getting hopes up yet but I hope Evs mate is right.

Anonymous said...

Its coz Man Utd win trophies.
This season Arsenal to be champions!!:D
Up The Arse!!!

Anonymous said...

Evs ius talking about De Rossi and Huntelaar. We'll waiut and see;)

Anonymous said...

Wake up evs, how many times have i heard" i know someone who works within the club and blah blah blah"

Wrighty7 said...

Marko,

I agree that we should keep Eboue too mate.

I like the geezer.

He seems to have cut out 90% of his diving antics and I think he is very under-rated.

I believe that he is one of the Premierships best right-backs.

Marko said...

And he's arguably better on the right than Theo. But if Arshavin, Rosicky and Nasri are fit then they're the main boys.

Lost Soul said...

Everyone only questions fergie cos he throws tantrums in the media. Wenger is too wise to throw tantrums and hence the media, unforgiving as they are, get on his back. like avenell said, it'll only make victory all the much sweeter

Anonymous said...

wenger will not spend.........last season it was obvious we needed a defensive mid as a priority and he did not buy then so why will he bother now.....he is too stuborn and really does beleive that this squad is good enough to win the league. I have never know arsenal fans to be so full of despair before a season under wenger. So many fans do not believe we are strong enough to challenge

Anonymous said...

Because he's Alex Ferguson that's why. Spend, spend, spend, recklessly driving Utd's finances into the ground without a care, then when the money has gone he'll retire. Then, with Utd unable to buy at the rate that they have done, the club takes a nosedive and the Utd fans will say, it was so much better when Fergie was boss. Fergie the legend eh? Win/win situation as far as he's concerned. Pah!

Anonymous said...

We all know it's De Rossi and Huntelaar that Evs is referring to. There is zero percent chance of either of these players coming. De Rossi, I rate, Huntelaar less so, but there's no way I see Wenger buying either of these. If I were to pick one it'd be De Rossi, but I'll be shocked if Wenger buys anyone else this close season.

Evs said...

yes the DM i was talking about was De rossi, but there is always a possiblility
however the striker wasnt huntelaar, someone who has been linked with a move away all summer, in my opinion one of the best in the world
but i do think huntelaar is more realistic

Anonymous said...

i've always noticed how song and denilson are doing a one man dm job that flamini, gilberto or vieira used to do by their own self. this is depriving us of using one more attacking player to break discipline defences down! Like the hannover game we just witnessed!

So, everybody all together now..

we need a new dm....
we need a new dm
we bloody hell need a new dm

Maybe if we all say it enough times together, the cosmic power of the earth will make it happen!

And EVS let's pray to god that what you just said is true although right abt now, it sounds too good to be true!

Anonymous said...

Give it a rest evs................

Evs said...

yes the DM i was talking about was De rossi, but there is always a possiblility
however the striker wasnt huntelaar, someone who has been linked with a move away all summer, in my opinion one of the best in the world
but i do think huntelaar is more realistic

Evs said...

Anonymous said...
Give it a rest evs................

29 July 2009 20:54

Im only passing on what i have heard why would i be lying/joking about this
im not a spud or a chav
trust me i think this could happen

Look at this link of the error on the arsenal website: http://img.skitch.com/20090728-tb7h6p1mwt8ci8ktx1k5ysfw5.jpg

now de rossi's name is there isnt it?

Anonymous said...

Villa (not Aston)?

Anonymous said...

EVS,

any chance you are trying to say it's David villa?.. but we don't have or never will have 60 million to splash on him or any other player...

Anonymous said...

Didn't think so, but couldn't think of another "world class" striker linked with a move away this summer. Dzeko? Vucinic?

Evs said...

as i have said i think the striker could possibly be a bit farfetched, but i am just passing on what i have heard.
also we have £41 million from toure and adebayor, plus money made from senderos and possibly eboue
trust me guys i am only passing on what i have heard
im not having you on

Anonymous said...

not doubting your integrity or your source - just trying to work out who you mean :-)

Anonymous said...

Heard from who?????????? Sounds like shit or you would just say names ah?

Wrighty7 said...

C'mon everyone give Evs a break!

Like he said, he is only passing on info.

If it doesn't happen then it doesn't happen.

However, I do believe that we WILL sign someone.

Evs said...

once again another link about de rossi

http://www.gunners4life.com/index.asp?article=528&referrer=rss

unfortunatly the errors have been ammended so they cant be seen
i just have the article

Anonymous said...

I know I am late from your last comment Evs, but on top of De Rossi the striker you are referring to can only be one Mr David Villa. Even with the money we have received I cannot see us getting him and De Rossi. Their combined value in the current market would surely be 60-70m.

Anonymous said...

Adebayor gone. Toure gone. So far, so good.
If we sign a physical defensive midfielder and a good and big centre-back then maybe Arsene will have the last laugh. -Ramgun

ps Eboue might be going too. This gets better and better!

GREG GOON said...

@ evs

That picture is henri lansbury!

http://www.arsenal.com/reserves-youth/players/henri-lansbury

Mate you should really do your homework better or find someone who could actually put di rossi's head on an arsenal body.

There is no chance in hell di rossi or david villa is coming to arsenal.

I could maybe see huntelaer and inler - inler I doubt aswell though

GREG GOON

Goons_with_Guns said...

He's won more bloddy trophies than Arsene, muppet! End of.

DelBoyEssex said...

Whats all this ALEX FERGUSON and FERGIE crap! Don't respect the cunt, he hates us! FFS!

Anonymous said...

Agreed.

I'm sick of all the cunts saying we're doomed. We are not doomed. Arsene Knows!

bluemoon said...

I don't think like that compare between Kolo and Willium ,I think Will is ggood and more professional player than Kolo who asked to move away when team has problem the African player like this ,no price to talk about. In my country, we said " he do like the cow forget itself. In recent year ,Kolo is not good enough and solid with something annoying his brain all the time. Ade is the greedy dog who always play football for money no relation and loyalty to the club that supported him , like this , it 's waste to keep the greedy dog.