Monday, 31 August 2009

We gave as good as we got against Manchester United

The press are having a field day. Arsene Wenger 'has' labelled Manchester United anti-football. Now I don't for a second agree with that and I certainly do not believe that Wenger is having a direct pop at United. His frustration is more than likely being aimed at the referee and I make him right.

United fouled Arsenal plenty of times in the match and that is something I expected to happen anyway. It is a fierce match. But to be honest I reckon Arsenal gave United as good as they got. We wasn't bullied off the park, in fact we more than held our own. I think the main problem was the inconsistency of the ref, Mike Dean.

That game on Saturday needed a strong ref and lets be honest here, Mike Dean isn't a strong ref. In fact he is a pretty shit ref. More shit than shite itself. And I'm surprised to be honest that he didn't lean towards Arsenal. He is from Wirral and apparently is a Liverpool fan!

Perhaps all the shenanigans of the press calling Arsenal cheats was playing on his mind and subconsciously he felt that he needed to back that up by booking more Arsenal players than necessary. I'm not being biased here but if Arsenal deserved having six players booked then so did United. In fact, Darren Fletcher could have been booked more than those six players all together!

Football is a physical game but ref's need to be consistent with their whistle blowing antics. They can't book one player for something and then not book another for the same thing. I saw plenty of incidents on Saturday where United were given the decision and Arsenal wasn't. It's hard to stomach but ref's always lean towards the home side. Especially if its United.

Despite the defeat I was impressed by Arsenal. We dominated for large periods of the game at the champions home and that is no mean feat. I always felt that to beat United you have to go at them. We did that and were unlucky not to win.

I don't want to put the entire blame of the defeat of the ref's shoulders but he did contribute to it. I'd still argue now that Rooney dived for that penalty but if it happened at the other end would the ref have been strong enough to give it? The answer is obviously no because Arshavin was a denied a clear cut penalty and he didn't certainly didn't dive.

There is no doubt about it that this campaign is going to be be exciting one. It's shaping up to be a difficult season and I honestly believe, from what I've seen so far, that Arsenal can mix it up and challenge for the title this season. Some believe that we need to sign a couple more players and I would like that to happen. It adds more depth.

It's a shame we wasn't playing Manchester City this week. I really feel that we would batter them despite their good form. The players would be eager to shake this defeat out of their systems and what better way is there than to get back on the pitch together and do that? Instead we have internationals and to be honest I probably won't even watch. Fingers crossed we don't get any injuries!

Keep it Goonerish.............

38 comments:

gooner said...

The sobs name is Mike Dean.

Anonymous said...

whats up with the wasn't???

Wrighty7 said...

Corrected. Cheers mate.

Anonymous said...

wenger can talk about arsenal having been the better team against MANU and the antifootball tactics used by MANU. The fact is that it was a tactic which Ferguson new would give him the only chance of winning and it worked, that's the mark of champions, being able to use whatever it takes to win.Arsenal will always be found wanting when it matters most,Diaby did not have a good game that day he kept losing posession, Eboue could not keep his position on the right flank,as he kept drifting in and out.The worrying issue is that MANU did not do anything the whole match, but still won the match.It means Arsenal are still far from being contenders. Look at this there is still Chelsea, tottenham, ManCity,liverpool etc to come.

Anonymous said...

Re Anonymous,

Yeah man, right..really horrifying to have citeh and scums in front of us. I just say: Bring em on!

danish gooner said...

The problem is Arsenal played very well and lost the same happened when the togonator scored at Old toilet a couple of seasons ago and we lost again,it is incredible frustrating losing when you are dominating.It is the worst kind of defeat and extremely morale sabbing a team can only lose so many games in such a fashion during a season before it wrecks their composure entirely.

Sean - Liverpool said...

Shocking refereeing. How the Arshavin pen wasnt given I do not know. Fact is you played them off the park and bacon face knows it. You do need to learn to win ugly though boys....

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately Man U show what being champions is all about. Playing poorly and still getting a win. I can't remember the last time we were outplayed and won. You make your own luck in this game. Besides I believed Almunia got both goals wrong. He charged out when he souldn't have and then when he should charge out and dominate he stands there while Diaby scores a bizarre own goal!

Anonymous said...

United 21 fouls 3 yellows.
Arsenal 15 fouls 6 yellows.

Tell me we were twice as dirty as the Moaners while conceding less fouls?

Doesn't affect the result though: We threw it away.

But someone needs to look at Dean's pathetically poor refereeing.

Anonymous said...

Yes, arsenal lost, but for anyone who is a football fan, will pick arsenal as the better team that day. Its well documented how Man united do fix referees to help them out. Benitez volunteered to air it out, the media went against him and it backfired. If it goes like this, english football will never prosper and dont expect Rooney to win a penalty in the world cup like that, a guy started falling before Almunia was there!!!!!!. How come someone commits more than 7 foul and ends up without a card?, its shocking, the ref kept on hunting any arsenal player he can find to book, this verifies what benitez said, manchester united depends on fixing referees, this is to say United are retarding English football and if it goes like this forget about winning the world cup. One day the same referees will reveal United anti-football tactics and Ferguson pride of 20 years will be badly nullified. Put your house on that.

Anonymous said...

Mike dean was there to play and punish Arsenal for United, the same applies to Webb, why these refs are the only one to ref arsenal v man u matches?

Anonymous said...

Manchester United corruption will be revealed one day.

Anonymous said...

One day Man United will be relegated to div 2 like Juventus, and they will be playing Wycombe because of fixing referees. Bennitez said, its a fact.

Anonymous said...

the 'wasn't' is not corrected.. very poor grammar..

Anonymous said...

I am happy with what I saw. This Arsenal team has character...And we began giving as much as we get.

That was what we used to see when we were competing at the top. We have moved up a ladder on the physical side this year.

I think we can be champions this year.

Summerspur said...

you absoloute cock

see you choose to ignore another dive by your lot. i would rather see the energy and commitment of fletcher any day of the week than your cheating filth.


"rooney dive" you really are a complete and utter fukwit
quiz for you numbnuts, who was the last englishman to play for you? fukin disgrace

better start writing another arse licking reply and pretend it was from someone else

happy days COYS

Anonymous said...

One think I did not like at all...the song their supporters threw at us about Wenger...

If Wenger was English, would the FA have accepted that????

If Arsenal supporters did that, do you think the FA would have refrained from opening an inquiry??

Summerspur said...

no worries on that score mate, arsenal fans dont sing

Summerspur said...

and er .... fergies not english sunshine!!!! not from round ere are ya?

Anonymous said...

Summerspur:

Why dont you just go back to your small club. Now that Modric is injured you can nestle back into the comfort that is mid-table mediocrity.

Wrighty7 said...

Summerspur,

Your comments do make me chuckle. If you couldn't see that Rooney dived then it is obvious that you are so biased its unbelievable.

You must be like the xenophobic media. Why does it bother you so much that Arsenal do not have have many English players?

Answer me this, were you cheering when Walcott scored a hat-trick for England against Croatia?

When was the last time a Tottenham player scored 3 for England?

Summerspur said...

yes i cheered walnuts and i will again. i dont think he will be their much longer nor will willshire, which can only benefit england.

the penalty? well you aint got a leg to stand on have you? bit like eboue really.

crouch, defoe and lennon in latest squad. huddlestone, jenas, woodgate, king, dawson have featured in previous squads.

bostock , naughton, o hara, rose, will prob feature in the future.

xenophobic cos i want england to do well? you yoghurt knitting guardian reading twat

Wrighty7 said...

Ha ha!

I'm not saying you are xenophobic because you want England to do well more like because you seem to have a problem with Arsenal having foreign players.

Talking of England's future it is well-known that Arsenal have several young English players coming through the ranks. And they are very impressive.

Yes I saw Eboue's dive but I also saw Rooneys and how a Tottenham fan can even try to have the moral high ground over diving is unbelievable.

Does Jurgen Klinnsman not ring a bell? He practically invented diving! And didn't you have a point deduction once?

Ta la.........

Anonymous said...

Summerspur have you nothing better to do on a day like today than sit on your sad fucking arse reading a arsenal blog...Get a fucking life you boring fattgot!!!!!!

Summerspur said...

klinsman din not dive at spurs , so you dont think arsenal have cheat issues? really?
im spurs your arsenal so we both have an angle on rooney penalty. its obviously not sunk in with you yet that every other un biased fan or pundit says it was clearly a penalty, as it also has not sunk in that the vast majority of other clubs fans think you are by far and away the worst cheats in prem. for fuks sake we cant all be wrong.


what the fuk is a fatggot?


bellend

Wrighty7 said...

Thats funny Summerspur because on the Talksport sunday morning show and several papers I've read how Rooney went down just as easy as Eduardo!

It seems to me that the only fans who think Arsenal are cheats are Spurs. Most seem to like Arsenal.

You still haven't answered why you had points deducted?

Anonymous said...

A disgusting piece of cheating by Didier Zokora has given Spurs the privelage of going in at half time 2-1 ahead of Portsmouth. For those who haven't seen it, the midfielder dived to the ground, arms flailing pulling a face of pain, to win his side a penalty

Summerspur said...

financial irregularaties. nothing to do with the team. points re-instated. cock

er.. george graham?

zokora!!!! 3 fukin years ago. are you for real. you had 2 booked in 3 days !!! countless last year for diving. its like the fukin twilight zone on here. talk sport!! what next ? quotes from the daily star.

type in arsenal cheats on you tube, then type in spurs cheats. get back to me now wont you?

vajara said...

When the arsenal lose to Man U ,that show the arsenal lose the title same because from stat. Like this ,Le Boss should enjoy to build the crop like Rambo, Jacko ,Primpong and any kids in the double champs youth team is good enough and please sell out Abu who never prove himself in big games.

Anonymous said...

Summerspur,
le arse are never going to admit that they are doing anything wrong, their whole history and league status was built on back handers, dodgy dealings and as many morales as cashley hole.

On the other hand they are a bloody fantastic footballing side just a shame the majority of the fans are fuckwits and its the arse

calebray
COYS

Tjalg said...

Rooney dived. Before Almunia touched him, he went down. That is cheating. Besides, the referee should be intelligent enough to understand that it was a dive. Rooney rushed to the ball, hoofed it into row E, fell down like a bag of potatoe and then Almunia slammed into him.

And to not give Arshavin a penalty is friggin' unbelieavable. For that sole incident alone he should be given a long rest. You can't have referees who misses something like that. Dean was right there. Oh dear...

Tjalg said...

About the Dean's intelligence, I meant that he should be smart enough to understand that Rooney constructed the incident. That wasn't even a chance as Rooney had kicked the ball into the spectators...

Anonymous said...

In my country Nigeria, Mike Dean and his family could have been kidnapped by now.

Anonymous said...

ITS HARD TO DEFEAT MAN U AS YOU NEED TO OVERCOME THE REF FIRST BEFORE MAN U. EVEN 2004-2005 VAN NIST DIVED TO WIN A PENALTY, THANKS TO THE WOODWORK.
MAN U BRIBES REFS OR REFS ARE UNITED FANS.I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE, A PLAYER COMMITING MORE THAN TEN FOULS WITHOUT GETTING A CARD!!!! AND I STILL CANT UNDERSTAND WHY ARSHAVIN WAS NOT AWARDED A PENALTY AND ROONEY GOT IT WITHOUT A PROBLEM. ITS SHOCKING REFEREEING REALLY. THERE SHOULD BE AN ENQUIRY ON THIS REALLY.

Anonymous said...

Performance-wise, even with key first-team players missing in Fabregas, Nasri and Walcott, we showed up United big time, and other teams watching that game would now fancy their chances a bit more against them. I could see teams like Chelsea, Liverpool, Villa, and Man City causing them a lot of problems this season.

Arshavins goal was utter quality. If he can do that carrying an injury, then I cant wait to see him fully fit again.

Despite the result, I felt reassured that we’ll probably end up doing better this season, a top 2 position isn’t unrealistic. From what I’ve seen so far, Chelsea are the only other top 4 team I’d be worried about, and even then I feel we could beat them if we play to our best ability. Liverpool, similar to United, rely too much on just a few of their players for winning games, and with 4 cometitions to play in, I feel they’re bound for a few big disappointments.

Despite the referees ineptitude, whether or not the penalty should have been awarded etc, which I all agree on, I still feel that what lost us the 3 points was mistakes on our part, mistakes that were preventable. Almunia, who I felt had a decent game otherwise, could have stayed on his line instead of going in on Rooney. He made some great saves towards the end of the game. And I got to feel for Diaby, who I also felt had an ok game otherwise, and I hope he can pick himself up quickly from this and make up for the own goal in the rest of our games. By the end of the game, you could see on the faces of the United players that they couldn’t believe their luck by the time the final whistle blew.

As for the treatment of Le Boss, absolutely disgusting. No other manager would have been treated that way if all they did was kick a plastic bottle in frustration. Mike Dean and his officials were a disgrace on Saturday, pure and simple.

Cant wait for the next game to be honest. We should have one or two players back in Cesc and Rosicky, and Arshavin should be fully fit by then too. In the mean time, lets hope the international break is kind to us.

Anonymous said...

Any one has an idea when our real mid flield is going to be up and running? i hear no updateds on any come back dates for fab, ros , nasri , or theo !!! Worries me to know if we suffer another injury in mid field we got no one . Ramsey i hear is out to , and young Wilshier is the only one we’v got.
He is out ov the world but physically he is still a kid we cant let him crush his bones football before they form .

All in all i want to forget what happend this week end , i believe the lads will kick Man C where it hurts the most .
Its time we should the devil in us too. For us fans , it worked for me to just smirk at fool hardy united fans , they just knew that we are going to fuck the upside down when they step into the emirates…. their momentry monkey faces hooting and all that they do when they win is going to stop when they will realise is the up coming games that they are a pale shadow of themselves frm last year . Their new signing wont even get place in the 1st team fr even the Neplaese national team ( If there is any thing as such as that ) …
Lets get our beers and our smiles ready fr the week end , ware that jersy with pride … A great season awaits us! Cheers!

Anonymous said...

Wow…Celtic are pretty pathetic then! I heard McGeady took a dive, didn’t know it was 2 of them! Why isn’t it in the papers? Bans in order? Surely the SFA are going to kick up a fuss right?!?! Surely! The hypocrisy is disturbing. And Rooney was entitled to the penalty if I try not to be biased. He was diving initially as Debs said, but Almunia hitting him made it legit for the penalty claim. Then again, 1 can argue…if a player starts to go down before he’s touched, isn’t he initially trying 2 deceive the ref? So many technicalities!

Just on another note… I know each n every1 of us are hurting from the loss but for some unknown reason I’m not upset with Diaby. He’s not may favourite admittedly, but I can see that he’s trying so much harder this season. I think Arsene could be right. Maybe he will finally step up after his injury woes of the past. I hope so. I just ask for consistency from him in particular as well as the entire team.

And just read of Ade hitting us Arsenal fans below the belt about him being loved at Man City. I’m amazed at the fact that he doesn’t get that talking about going to Barca pretty much got on our nerves! Silly fellow! Can’t even understand how he was disrepecting us! With that said, he’ll be fired up as he said, “I’ll do anything for the 3 points” against us. International break, u pain in the rear!

Anonymous said...

u watch your team full of foreigners, but you dont watch england?? what a wanker, glory hunting cunt, support england , not africa fc