The Gallas/Toure partnership has always been a talking point with Gooners.
On paper the pair look very strong together but the reality is the partnership has flaws and has been exposed many a time.
The pair are very similar players. I think it's obvious that both play better and look more comfortable alongside a dominant centre back instead of each other.
When Gallas was at Chelsea he had the dominating John Terry as his partner and Kolo flourished with Sol Campbell patrolling with him at the back.
Djourou can be that dominating defender for Arsenal. He has the ability and the size to do so. It's fair to say that when Djourou played in place of the injured Toure Arsenal looked more solid.
I personally felt that when Djourou played he looked one of our better players and deserved to kept in the side. The return of Toure demoted Djourou and I felt it was unfair.
Maybe that's why Arsenal can be complacent at times. There is no competition for places, certain players know that they will be picked if fit. Who knows?
We looked shaky at the back on Saturday despite a 4-0 win. To win the league we need to be more solid.
I think Djourou deserves a run in the side. But the question is who makes way? It's a tough shout between Gallas and Toure but I'd side with Gallas/Djourou being the partnership just based on what I saw in the earlier games.
I love Toure so don't think this a personal attack on him. It's just an opinion of mine.
Keep it Goonerish...........
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I personally want djourour to partner either gallas or toure. it really seems to bring out the best in either of them.
DId you check out the video?
Are you mad? You would drop Touré? I can't believe that. We need to get rid of Gallas and quick. He is the weak link in the defence and Djourou needs to replace him
guys i get what you are saying but this season we have let in 1 goal in 6 games. you cant change that in my opinion
I agree with wrighty.
Kolo hasnt looked the same player since returning from the ANC in Jan.
Perhaps he wouldn't take a first team place for granted after a spell on the side-lines?
Both are class but i think it is senderos not djouru that we need
because he gets his head in and he knows that no matter how much he gets bruised he still had an ugly face 2 start with
i know he is prone to mistakes
I Think Gallas and toure should alternate
Get rid of Gallas. He's fat and shit.
I agree and would move kolo into the middle to see if he can fill the void left by flamini.
Toure ahs been poor for about a year and a half now.
Drop him and play Djourou. Also play Song instead of Denilson, not that Den is a bad player, he just doesn't do the required job (DM)
And PLEASE, none of this bullshit about Toure alongside Cesc. We may aswell play Rvp in goal and Cesc at LB if we are going to do that.
"he gets bruised he still had an ugly face 2 start with"
lmao
Gallas is Captain, Kolo is Vice-Captain!!! Both will not be dropped while Fit...they are our first choice partnership. Granted they have looked shaky, but as above, we have shipped one goal...and if Lehmann'd precedent is anything to go by - Gallas has one more mistake and Toure has two...
looking at the stats this season so far we have the best defensive record in the premiership. We have two world class central defenders in our first team - they should be able to work together. It seems Arsenal are not going for a defensive midfielder and there is more importance for the whole team to defend as one unit - if they do this the team at currently available (not including injured players expected to return in just over a month) and the substitutes we have (its a long season and I am sure Djourou will get opportunities to show his talents)can easily beat anyone in the prem.
i think Djourou and Toure will be the future as Gallas is getting on in Arsene's terms now so i dont see the reason why he shouldnt be dropped.
But... he is the captain.
Nordveit looks a great prospect though and is a future 1st choice defender.
Oh give the defense a rest ...
if someone scores a goal against arsenal FC someone will always be more responsible than others ..
Alumina ??
against Birmingham it was clichy .
against Liverpool Toure fucked up ..
Shit happens
we got a clean sheet last game .
so they cannot be doing that bad .
If you can keep ade in the team when the cunt looks like a loaf week in week out ... wenger will sure as hell persist with toure - gallas !
I completely agree that JD should regain his place in the team but not at the expence of Toure. Gallas only got the armband from Wenger so that he would stay at the club.
Even though we have only conceded 1 goal so far it was a costly goal and it was "captain fantastics" fault. Plus Gallas defo takes his place for granted and he caused France to lose against Austria.
We got to the CL final playing Toure with Phil(a comanding defender). I didnt want Phil to go bcause he , like thoe, is a confidence player and would surely thrive with a solid run in the team.
In short- Drop Gallas and bring back Phil.
Oh and i forgot to say this- only conceding 1 in 6 is usually good but when you take into consideration the teams we played then its not THAT impressive. Shteve Maclarens' FC Twente, WBA, Newcastle, Fulham did score and Rovers should have. If the problem isnt sorted out soon then we will be in big trouble. Just wait 'til we come up against Mancs, Chelsea and 'pool.
TOP TOP ARTICLE AGAIN WRIGHTY MY MAN
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JD in and rotate willy and kolo - those who think the defence is solid need to pop off to specsavers - its good, but not that good, as long as we attack and score we will be ok tho, but on the back foot in any game - we will struggle a bit
i think dijouro should should given a chance, it clear that so far gallas toure told play that well together,although both of them are world class defenders they are just to similar,dijouro looks very solid and very time when given the chance looks very solid as does song they both should be given more chances but both of them i feel will be given more chances but so far we have kept clean sheets a think silvester will help.
I think Djourou is still our best bet as a replacement for Flamini as a defensive midfielder.
I saw him play a couple of times for the reserves in that position when he was coming back from injury and he looked the business.
I was also at Portsmouth for the last game of the 2006/7 season where he was our best player that day playing DM.
He is more powerful than Song or Denilson being a stronger tackler and header of the ball, so would certainly be better than them when some defending is called for
I agree with The Goon that Nordvelt is our future Tony Adams
its a tough decision,i think if they give Denilson enough games he can be a good replacement for flamini,he's aggressive,Good free- kick and corner taker,he can pass the ball well to strikers as we have seen him in the past few games,a couple of goals came from him .Song is skilful and better at passing but not strong enuogh for that roll.Personally i like Djourou better than Gallas,but Gallas plays better in big
games.
Strenght has nothing to do with being a good defensive midfielder. Makelele (who basically created the position) was tiny and it was his reading of the game that made him so good.
Although we bought JD as a DM wenger has decided to convert him into a CB so I cant see him playing midfield now.
Toure can play defensive center mid.Like the gattuso or gilberto role.Silvestre to partner with Gallas.
Making Djourou as our 1st team player so soon is a big risk.Imagine him up against the likes of Rooney or Torres.He'll probably be bullied because of his inexperience.We need tough ass centrebacks to beat off defenders.And Djourou still doesnt cut it.Maybe loan him to a top club before letting him fit the 1st team role.
To beat off strikers*
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